01 FACTS & EVIDENCE
What can be established?
Kathryn Krick leads 5F Church and identifies publicly as an apostle. Her ministry emphasizes healing, deliverance, prophecy and revival and has a large online following. Supporters report spiritual transformation; critics question aspects of her authority, practices, manifestations and relationship with spiritual mentor GeorDavie. Krick has denied allegations that actors are paid to stage manifestations.
My discernment did not begin with a final accusation. It began with specific statements and patterns that caused me to pause. Readers should hear the statements that first triggered my discernment and then evaluate them carefully rather than relying only on my description.
02 BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE
Testing is biblical
Testing is biblical; reflexive condemnation is not the same thing as discernment. Neither manifestations nor criticism prove authenticity or falsity. Doctrine, confession of Christ, fruit, character, accountability and testable claims all matter. Christians also disagree over whether the apostolic office continues today, so that disagreement must not be disguised as neutral fact.
03 SPIRIT-LED REFLECTION
The power must never be separated from the process
Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith. Therefore, when we want to understand how genuine spiritual ministry should function, Jesus must remain our pattern.
Jesus did not merely teach His disciples about prayer. He consciously allowed them to witness His prayer life. He brought them into the environment of prayer. They saw Him withdraw from crowds, pray before significant decisions and continue in prayer even when ministry demands were increasing.
Luke 5:15–16 tells us that as His fame spread and great multitudes gathered to hear Him and be healed, Jesus withdrew into the wilderness and prayed. Notice the order: the greater the manifestations became, the more His dependence upon the Father remained evident.
Jesus did not allow visible power to replace visible dependence.
Hebrews 5:7 describes Him offering prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears. In Gethsemane, His disciples witnessed the agony of His submission. They saw that the authority with which He ministered publicly was connected to a life surrendered privately.
His prayer life demonstrated His dependence upon the Father, His submission to the Father’s will and His humility in carrying out the Father’s assignment.
Prayer is not merely a way of requesting things from God. Prayer is one of the ways we continually acknowledge that we cannot fulfill God’s assignment independently of God. Studying Scripture carries the same confession of dependence. When we remain students of the Word, we acknowledge that our experiences, revelations, impressions, gifts and manifestations must remain subject to the truth God has already revealed.
Prayer is our continuing submission to God. Scripture is our continuing submission to the Holy Spirit as His students.
Jesus made the process evident
There is an important difference between displaying spirituality and allowing genuine dependence upon God to become evident.
Some people can manufacture the appearance of spirituality. They may announce that they are going to a mountain to pray, make sure everyone knows that they are fasting, or withdraw into a room while ensuring that the withdrawal itself becomes part of their public image. Those actions do not necessarily prove intimacy with God.
Jesus did not need to create a performance around His prayer life. He was not advertising His spirituality. Nevertheless, those who walked closely with Him knew that He prayed. They saw enough of His dependence that one of His disciples eventually said, “Lord, teach us to pray” (Luke 11:1).
That request did not arise merely because Jesus delivered an impressive lecture about prayer. It arose after the disciple had watched Him pray. His life created hunger in them for the source of what they saw operating through Him.
Visible dependence does not glorify the leader; it teaches the disciple where the power comes from.
The concern is not that every private prayer must be recorded or publicized. The concern is whether the people closest to the ministry can testify that prayer, Scripture, humility, accountability and submission genuinely form its foundation.
Paul taught Timothy the process
Paul did not train Timothy merely to display spiritual gifts or demonstrate supernatural authority. He taught him how to live, study, endure and remain spiritually grounded.
Paul did not only want Timothy’s gift to appear. He wanted Timothy’s growth to appear. He taught him to watch both his life and his doctrine carefully and to continue in them. He later instructed him to study in order to show himself approved unto God—a workman who rightly divided the Word of truth.
The process included Scripture, sound doctrine, character, discipline, endurance, humility, prayer and continued obedience. The goal was not simply for Timothy to “have power.” The goal was for Timothy to become a faithful servant who could be trusted with whatever God placed upon his life.
The process is as important as the manifestation
The Church must stop separating spiritual power from the process of spiritual formation. Deliverance is not the entire story. Healing is not the entire story. Miracles, testimonies, prophecies and manifestations are not the entire story.
We must also ask: Where is the prayer? Where is the study of Scripture? Where is the submission to biblical truth? Where is the evidence of continuing humility? Where is the process through which followers are being taught to depend upon God rather than become dependent upon the leader?
A ministry should not merely show people that the leader has arrived. It should teach people how to walk faithfully with God.
When a ministry places enormous emphasis upon demonstrating that its leader carries unusual power, but gives little emphasis to prayer, Scripture, doctrine, formation, accountability and continued submission, that imbalance becomes a legitimate reason to pause.
The pause is not an accusation. The pause is protection.
It does not automatically prove that every manifestation is false. Neither does it give us permission to invent facts about another person’s private life. But it does require us to examine what the ministry is teaching people to admire, pursue and reproduce.
Applying this concern to Kathryn Krick
This is one of my concerns when examining the ministry of Kathryn Krick. A great deal of the public testimony surrounding her ministry emphasizes deliverance, manifestations, unusual spiritual authority and results attributed to her ministry. The power is repeatedly presented. The deliverances are repeatedly presented. The testimonies are repeatedly presented. But the process behind the power must also be examined.
I am not close enough to Kathryn Krick to make an absolute declaration about everything she does privately. I cannot truthfully say that she never prays or never studies Scripture. Discernment must never become an excuse for careless accusation.
My concern is about what is publicly emphasized, what is being modeled and what followers are being taught to associate with spiritual power. In the video included with this analysis, Kathryn speaks for herself. Her own words must be heard, placed within their proper context and evaluated biblically. In fact, the video goes further than the concern I initially raised.
That evidence should not be ignored simply because deliverances and manifestations are occurring. Manifestations do not exempt a ministry from examination. Claims of spiritual power make biblical examination more necessary, not less necessary.
- What is its source?
- What doctrine surrounds it?
- What process produced it?
- What kind of dependence does it create?
- Who receives the glory?
- Does it lead people into deeper dependence upon Jesus or greater dependence upon a human vessel?
- Is the leader teaching people the biblical process of prayer, Scripture, humility, holiness and submission?
- Is the process still evident after the platform has grown?
Power must continue to bow
Prayer is not merely how someone begins in ministry. Prayer is how the servant continues bowing before God. Scripture is not merely what someone studies before receiving a platform. Scripture must continue judging the leader’s doctrine, experiences, revelations, decisions and conduct after the platform has grown.
A person does not graduate from dependence upon God. The greater the influence, the greater the need for visible humility. The greater the manifestation, the greater the need for biblical accountability. The greater the platform, the greater the need to show people that the vessel remains completely dependent upon God.
Jesus possessed authority beyond anything any minister could ever claim, yet His dependence upon the Father remained evident. If Jesus prayed, who are we not to pray? If Jesus submitted Himself to the Father, who are we to present ourselves as spiritually self-sufficient? If Paul taught Timothy the process, why would a modern ministry emphasize only the manifestation?
Power that cannot show you its submission should never demand your unquestioning submission.
Watch Kathryn Krick’s own recorded words, then weigh this indicator together with the other evidence: the relationship between visible power and visible dependence, between manifestation and formation, and between what a leader displays and what that leader teaches followers to become.
04 FIVEFOLD PERSPECTIVE
What might each ministry gift examine?
Apostolic: Test authority and accountability. Prophetic: Test spiritual claims and fruit. Evangelistic: Ask whether Christ and the gospel remain central. Pastoral: Protect vulnerable people without contempt. Teaching: Examine actual doctrine rather than clips and labels.
05 HENRY’S PERSPECTIVE
Discernment before the fruit appears
Kathryn Krick is one of the cases that helped inspire BYR because ordinary shortcuts can fail here. Testimonies of healing and deliverance, an apparently gentle personality, or visible fruit do not by themselves settle authenticity. Neither does discomfort settle falsity. A red flag is an invitation to discernment, not permission to accuse. The wider principle is explained in Discernment Before the Fruit Appears: warning may justify a protective pause before it justifies a verdict.
The degree of your discomfort should determine the degree of your detachment. Loss of peace may mean pause, investigate, pray, seek counsel or step farther away. But the person who feels no discomfort may be even more vulnerable. Jesus must remain the Author and Finisher of our faith. Honor leaders without honoring them into a place where you cannot ask God to correct your view of them.
Christians should also listen beyond their own circle. Hear mature voices in the wider Church who disagree with you, not merely to defend your position but to discover a blind spot. Isolation around one leader, one spiritual father or one revelation stream is not proof of falsehood, but it is a red flag worth examining.
I also watch for what I call negotiated freedom: an environment may feel free until you question, disagree, seek outside counsel or try to leave. And there can be negotiated righteousness: genuine-looking growth inside an environment does not by itself authenticate everything operating there. Lot’s daughters appeared morally restrained in Sodom, yet what emerged later showed that apparent righteousness had not told the whole story. Likewise, breakthrough, blessing or manifestation cannot be the final test.
My reluctance to publicly label a minister does not remove my responsibility as a pastor. Based on the red flags and doctrinal concerns I presently see, if someone under my care asked whether I would encourage them to submit to Kathryn’s ministry, my answer would be no. I would not presently want my son, daughter or someone spiritually entrusted to me feeding there.
You do not need enough evidence to condemn someone before you have enough reason to protect someone. We can withhold condemnation without withholding caution.
A DOCTRINAL CONCERN—GIVING & DELIVERANCE
Can sowing unlock deliverance?
This concern can be examined from Kathryn’s own published teaching. In a 5F Church transcript on complete deliverance, she teaches that one possible key to deliverance is sowing into God’s kingdom to counter prior sowing into the devil’s kingdom, while also explicitly saying healing and deliverance cannot be bought and are free from God. BYR should represent both parts of her claim accurately.
Henry’s assessment is that making financial sowing a key that can unlock or complete a person’s deliverance crosses a doctrinal line. Scripture honors generous giving, but spiritual power is not purchased. Acts 10 says Cornelius’s prayers and alms came before God; Acts 8 records Peter’s severe rebuke when Simon sought spiritual power through money. Giving may be worship, obedience and generosity. Deliverance is not for sale.
A second concern involves a circulated statement in which Kathryn said that merely talking about Jesus is “not enough” in the context of insisting ministers must stand with what she describes as God’s present revival. Context matters, and BYR will not turn one provocative sentence into a claim that she rejects Christ’s sufficiency. But language concerning Christ carries exceptional pastoral responsibility. A phrase can have an intended explanation and still be careless enough to mislead the sheep. Small deviations in Christ-centered language deserve serious examination before they become larger doctrinal deviations.
BEFORE YOU REACT…
Pause before reaching a verdict
1. What is clear? Krick publicly claims apostolic ministry and teaches healing, deliverance and revival. Her own published material connects financial sowing with a spiritual key that can unlock deliverance while denying that deliverance is being purchased.
2. What remains uncertain? A final judgment about her heart, motives, every manifestation, or the spiritual source of an entire ministry cannot be responsibly made from clips or critics alone.
3. What should be avoided? Casual labels, mockery, gender-based dismissal, guilt by association, and treating manifestations or testimonies as automatic proof.
4. What may be wise? Slow down. Examine primary teachings, Scripture, accountability, fruit over time and serious arguments from outside your own theological circle.
5. What should be prayed about? Pray for Kathryn, the people receiving ministry, those who report genuine help, those who may have been harmed or confused, and for truth and correction wherever needed.
6. Who is being forgotten? The sheep—especially vulnerable people seeking healing, deliverance and hope, whose desperation can make spiritual claims extraordinarily consequential.
7. How close are you to the matter? A pastor responsible for someone’s spiritual care has a different duty from a distant social-media observer. Pastoral caution may be appropriate before a public verdict is justified.
8. What action, if any, is appropriate? If you have serious concerns, reduce exposure as needed, seek God sincerely, consult mature believers, study the primary material and do not spread accusations you cannot establish.
9. WWJD—What Would Jesus Do? If Jesus were visibly standing beside you as you watched, shared, criticized or defended this ministry, would your words show His truth, courage, love and restraint?
10. Before You React… A red flag can justify caution without becoming a verdict. Do not be gullible. Do not be cynical. Come back to Jesus, test what you hear, and remain humble enough to let truth overturn your preferred conclusion.
SOURCE DESK
Primary and contextual sources
YouTube—Kathryn Krick video discussed in this analysis ↗5F Church—Kathryn Krick’s published teaching on complete deliverance ↗
5F Church—later explanation of sowing, surrender and deliverance ↗
Deseret News—profile, claims, supporters and critics ↗
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